Tlar & Friends Exchanging Thoughts  Part 2

Jackt:    I would like anyone in the know to explain what they think about the ISX also kicking off internationaly on July 1st. opinions I have read indicate the IQD on ISX will go international on that date and couldn’t be at the current artificial rate…..so wouldn’t that be a big flop at the current rate?….I guess everything is relative given a day or two or three….according to the July 1st time frame. Any thoughts?

Shanny:  I currently have two bank deals going that I was invited into. One was probably 3 years ago and the other one was 1.5 -2 years ago. Both deals are about the same in what they offer. The difference in my offer and yours is the rate. We will get the CBI rate plus other red carpet perks vs. a $3-$4 rate.
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Shanny Continues:    Bank deals are out there and they have been out there for awhile but they are very hard to come by. Most bank employees aren’t going to have a clue what the dinar revaluation is about and if they do, they aren’t going to know anything about deals that the bank has going with dinar holders. I think a majority of those deals happen on a regional level with the bankers much higher up in the food chain. 

Fisthard:   Thank you Shanny.  And just for fun, if there’s still anyone wanting to bail out, be a smart investor and check the real estate listings in Iraq.  You can use USD, and of course, IQD.  My favorite is a new condo complex (gated) in Arbil.  Investment property in Iraq, now there’s a change in topic. 

  Parksutton at June 28, 2014 at 10:00 AM        Ok I have been up in the mountains at youth camp this past week so I am just now catching up with the new news. I have to say I agree with Tim……. Everything Tlar just posted is straight out of the guru play book:

        1) I have a top secrete source,

        2) I am not supposed to say this

        3) I’ll probably get in trouble,

        4) I cannot say all that I know

        5) people are being contacted to be bought out(when all over you can still buy it for less then $1,000 per million)

        6) This should happen by Tuesday IF (have to leave some wiggle room) the government is formed.

        Tlar did not start out like this, he started out be examining articles and giving intelligent replies. However if you go back and check that is how must of the gurus started.

        I hope he’s right, I hope I’m crazy but after four years I can recognize guru speak when I see it.

        Please don’t do anything foolish or buy something you cannot afford because someone on the internet says they have a contact or knows someone…..

rocko at June 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM:    I agree with your last paragraph about not buying anything you can’t afford. I like Tlar and his posts and I know he would agree. Buy on your own decision making principles and don’t blame anyone else if it doesn’t happen.

Joyglo:   Bravo to you both.  Parksutton for saying what some of us are thinking, and rocko for reminding us that we aren’t a bunch of kids.  We are adults and need to take responsibilty for our own actions!!

That being said, BRAVO to Tlar & Shanny for letting us know some of the things we don’t know.  Just because we are not in the inner circle of some of these bank officers, does not mean that it is not true. 

I love this quote from Donald Rumfeld!

“Reports that say there’s — that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things that we know that we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”  ~  Donald Rumsfeld, 2002

Fred:   The banks are apparently fishing for holders of larger quantities of Dinar. Obviously they can’t just look in “the dinar holder yellow pages” so they are throwing out these “opportunities” to get folks with dinar to contact them.

Obviously they think there is a possibility the dinar will go up in value at some point. And what bank wouldn’t want to have a list of names of people who might suddenly need a place to store, say, a few million?

Karen:   I’m curious to understand more about these bank deals. 

IF I was an investor with a large amount of dinars, what are the advantages of doing a bank deal now vs waiting until the official RV other than having that part of our RV plan done?   Are there perks that won’t be available after the RV? 

I can see how doing a deal based on whatever the new CBI rate is would have little risk, but doing one for a specific amount seems risky because it could come out higher, we know the banks aren’t going to lose money on this!   Just curious.

Rileysetter:    I will gladly take the bank deal (even at the bottom of the $3 – $4 range).  Please let me know where I should send my contact info.

Rocko:  Karen,   would guess the advantage is more to the bank. They don’t like to lose. I personally wouldn’t take the deal because I want to put my money in a entity that will protect me from lawsuits or anything else. I don’t currently have the amount of money it would take to do this but will after the RV. That’s my 1.5 cents worth. I haven’t been contacted so maybe I don’t have enough to entice them

Sager:       Another point to consider is the ISX merging with NASDAQ OMX July 1… an international, tradable currency must be in effect for this to happen

HandOverFist:    From what I understand, this will be handled through “custodial banking” and therefore, unfortunately, an international, tradable currency is not necessary

Tlar:    Guys I and everybody on here keeps using the July 1st date on the currency matter.  Turki’s exact wording was mid-year which implies around  the 1st but not necessarily meaning it has to be July 1st or nothing.  I am as guilty of using the July 1st as the exact date as anyone, maybe more.  tlar.

Sager:    I’m waiting on an answer from a friend of mine, who’s family has over 100 years of banking experience combined.  But from what I understand, ISX with OMX X stream absolutely needs an international tradable currency because this is an international platform that will deal with many exchanges throughout the world.

Sager:    Tlar, I have a question for you Sir.

There is a speculative thought/theory out there by a person called Phoenix… In essence, he states that there is a Hegelian Dialectic happening (Problem, Reaction, Solution), whereby the powers that be will create a problem (Maliki winning third term… this will cause huge uproar in Iraq and worldwide (Reaction), and the Kurds will separate aka Biden’s 3 state solution (Solution).

Phoenix knows that this goes against pretty much everyone’s thinking, but is adamant that this is what will happen….he says that everything is ready for the Kurds to separate.. interim currency will be the LDs (with Kurdish language) until they have their own currency.

I’ve been seeing lots of articles of the Kurds asking for a refendum and wanting to separate.

I’m wondering what your thoughts are on this?

Here’s Phoenix’s complete theory (I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post link from another blog site, but if I’m not allowed, I apologize in advance and please delete:

goingglobaleastmeetswest.blogspot.ca/2014/06/message-from-phoenix-matrix-of.html   Thank you  Sager

High-five:      Sager, it looks to me like they are already separating into 3 regions within the country of Iraq.   So,I don’t think it is necessary for Maliki to hold a 3rd term – - all that was needed for the Suni uprising was the THREAT that Maliki would hold a 3rd term.   Much has been accomplished using Maliki’s own ego against him – - the latest being article 140—–done!

Also, I, too am very interested in what your connections have to say about whether or not the dinar has to go international when it joins NASDAQ. OMX:)  

Yes, the Nasdaq absolutely needs an international tradable currency because it’s an international platform, etc…………….however, the non-tradable currency will be handled by “custodial bankers” as the “middlemen”.

I had a long-running argument with Kaperoni on this and he proved to me he was correct.  Believe me, I don’t like it one bit, but apparently this is the way it’s done when you have a non-tradable currency and want to trade on the international markets.

Tlar:   Hi-Five,   Kurddistan has already stated they want to work within the confines of Iraq which means stay.  They got what they want as do the Sunni’s the minute a new government exists. 

This will be a democracy and it is my belief they are better off as part of Iraq than by themselves.  I have said it for years that references to leaving Iraq is bluster used when they want to move the process along.  With Maliki gone, the big picture for Iraq is good.  tlar

High-five:   Yes, IMO, the country of Iraq won’t dissolve into three separate countries, but I do see them separating into regions within the country of Iraq.  The Kurds already have limited autonomy, and I see the Sunnis wanting that too.   I don’t see that the Kurds want to leave Iraq, but they will not put up with another Maliki term. 

BlueyesinLevis:  t’s not that strange a concept… the US is split into 50 different regions… called States… within a Federal framework…. ( and sadly the federal Emloyess are power hungry and expanding US Federal power daily)

-It is the same in Iraq.. when the Kurds speak of the right of self determination.. they are not talking about creating an entire new landlocked country…( Though there are extreme fringe Kurds who want this).. they are speaking of States Rights…  and looking for a weak federal system governing the regions over all.

The recently passed Law 21 shifts power to the local level.. and the Federated Council will also curb the Federal power.

The next Prime Minister.. will NEVER be able to get away with the crap Maliki did…  we are not watching them take a chance on another dictator type….we are witnessing the birth of a Democratic Nation.

G2CK:    I totally agree Blue, thanks for you reply…out with the old and in with the new and with anti-dictator protection!

Sager:                  My friend got back to me… he said time will tell, but know this… the Nasdaq is not set up to settle trades in this manner.

Aloha Alex:    Just saw an art at DA that Jaafari denounced Malaki and they are presently following Sistani’s orders to pick someone else NOW!   If true IT IS OVER FOR MALAKI.

BlueyesinKevis:    Yes.. Jafaari was one of Maliki’s guys.. if he is aligned with Hakim for real..  then Maliki is toast.

Jeff:    Well as u can see I’m more of an observer than many here, I’ve been in this investment since the end of 07 when I was blessed to go as a contract worker, I didn’t grasp the magnatude of the pay off till almost 2yrs into this when I went to my first internet site,

so to say I’ve been in this a while what I’ve learned is there is a big reason I have 2ears and only one mouth

 I do much better if I don’t know what I’m talking about to listen to those I’ve come to trust, now for some time now Randy has stepped back and low and behold Tlar showed up I came to trust that he knew what he was talking about

so I like many others are always eager to hear what he says, I read his post where he was willing to give up his source to give those here the complete truth, now he has again stuck his neck out even further with his declaration about when this would happen,

now I’ve heard many such declarations over the yrs so I’m kind of numb to then, what I can tell u is this my no means discredits Tlar in my eyes I give him credit for having the courage to state what he believes knowing how brulal people can be in this world,

and they sure have been here, I pray that Tlar is right as like many I am so ready for this ride to be over, I know Tlar u don’t know me from Adam but u have my support, and I’ll keep waiting for your experience in this as it’s way more than mine..KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.