The Closer’s Mentality There is a quote that says “sports imitates life”. In baseball, when a team needs to shut down the opponent late in the game the manager calls in the “closer”. A pitcher dedicated to getting the opposition out to win or allow the team a chance to win usually in the last [...]
I got asked to come into MIG and post something… told BobG that it wouldn’t be too serious, so here’s the “preview” of what is gonna get posted over there: Well with some time away from chat of late (and doing a lot of driving) I’ve had time to think (and laugh a lot) at [...]
Something for non essential government employees to read during the shutdown… It’s so easy in the day to day “miraculous” postings to get lost in the FACT that we’ve heard this all before… many times. Let me begin by saying some of these comments will be neither popular nor as remarkable as they sounded the [...]
BWM: ok… so I’ll give the option tonight… would you rather do moderated or old school sit on your hands
BWM: ok… we’ll go moderated so remember ALL your comments and questions come directly to me
BWM: please use your IM’s for private chat until we turn the room loose from moderation
BWM: Before we get started tonight I need to do a little housekeeping that may help answer some questions prior to Q&A. It has been asked that this classroom would be posted on recaps. I would like to thank Recaps for the last several years of cooperation for posting AND removing items that needed dealing with on their site.
I know that some ppl need a centralized location to be able to find information and that has served it’s purpose. As with any “blog” type media you will agree and disagree with some part of the information.
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Again, this isn’t a “goodbye” speech so I don’t want to get too mushy. Like I said other day, I will continue to be around where needed and post as information requires. I just wanted to make sure that I made a public thank you to the mods and administration for their timeless efforts over the past several years here and the other sites we have been involved with.
BWM: First, let me reiterate that ONLY the 3S chat is being shelved for the time being. The forums will still be there and if there is something important it will be posted there and if necessary chat could be reopened. Also, when/if KCMana tells us it’s ok to put the link for group signup back up AndieZ will take care of that.
Second, we’ve heard a lot of “can’t we all get along” followed quickly by “well I see there’s only a few ppl at 3S anyway”. When you consider the sources (ppl who have been booted off every site until they started their own) and you understand the mentality, They don’t care about content, they only care about the number of ppl coming to their site you begin to grasp their reasoning.
Because of that, I feel sorry for these ppl and the ppl that have fallen into their false philosophies.
adventuregirl: What is the subject matter?
BWM: we’ll go with whatever y’all want to discuss… we’ll keep it brief because I know that your time is limited to speak to some here
.infidel: once this website closes and it rv’s…. how we will connect afterward?
BWM: we will open as needed to discuss or share anything that is necessary
mamari4: how do I rate for a date? ok I changed this obvious question for her
BWM: mama mia!!!
codreamer59: BWM First, thank you for all that you and all the Mods have done at 3s. I’ve appreciated the ‘no hype’ zone and will miss you all. A question – I was wondering if you think Generals64 private placement group will have the ability to exchange prior to the rate going public or not? Thanks.
BWM: I could speculate about this… but public or not we only will be allowed to do ANYTHING once we get the emails explaining what we should do…
redsnowbird: If the IQD floats…..which is what is being told by CBI and IMF…….what does that do to our group rate? Or does it have any effect?
BWM: I honestly don’t see the float other than managed… it would seem to me that any “group” rate would be there to offset an time period for concern
redsnowbird: Will we be able to exchange our VND at different banks before we do the group rate at WF for the IQD? Or are they tied together?
BWM: we’ve tried to discuss this in the past… and to be brutally honest, it’s ALL guesswork until it happens. Any information that a guru passes along about a bank is based on information that the bank has gotten from the UST… and as we all know…the UST lies
xyz: BWM what’s you take on Reno? Real or scam-city?
BWM: simple… if someone wants your dinar and are not willing to give you actual U.S. Dollars… or some other spendable currency, what good does it do you anyway… let me answer the whole SKR scenario simply by this… a U.S. bank CANNOT accept the dinar under any circumstances to “hold” for payment legally within the confines of their institution… if some “joe” wants to give you a receipt for your dinar promising you cash when it rv’s and you give them your dinar… that’s on you
adventuregirl: I would just like to say it’s been a really fun place to put up my feet. Thank you everyone for your friendliness, light heartedness and your more than kind welcome. I will really miss you all!
BWM: again… most here are members at other sites… while it may not always provide the comfort of the “tree” as far as safety from the hype it’s still going to be possible to catch up with ppl and communicate
inwest: BWM thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Do you believe there is a global currency reset or is there is simply a rv of the Iraq Dinar?
BWM: I’m not a conspiracy theorist by any means… I would surely enjoy some of the ideals that seem to have come forth from that conversation but I don’t spend time working on those theories… I have my plan and I believe it has been thought out and challenged enough personally to make sure it can be successful regardless of any changing circumstances
codreamer59: BWM Other than the fact that we should put our exchanged dinar in a separate account from the vnd, are there any words of wisdom you want to pass on before we exchange?
BWM: honestly, regardless of who’s name is on the bill (UST or Fed) the currency is still guaranteed by the United States of America… period. So all the panic about this bill or that bill… if I put a bill in the bank it becomes digital money GUARANTEED at the face value of the bill regardless of the buying power I possess…
speedracer: BWM on a previous class room we talked about a tax on US citizens moving money to offshore accounts. If I remember correctly it was a 30% tax starting in 2014. I think it was hidden in the back of some highway bill. Do you remember this and can you expand on this? Thanks for all you have done!!!
BWM: yes it was hidden in the highway bill… but has been superceded by yet another bill that can completely freeze your monies until you prove clear from all tax liabilities… you will need as we have always stated to see a TAX and Investment PROFESSIONAL to set these things up safely and securely
Blinkster: BWM thank you. I know you as well as all of us are waiting for the same thing- some have dire circumstances and some don’t right now… we all want the same thing. I know it’s not popular to debunk the hype that abounds out there, but thanks for doing so anyway.
BWM: it’s true some situations are worst than others… part of life sadly and I can sympathize on every level. We never wanted to DEPEND on this but for some it seems the only answer to the questions that face us daily… all I can say is keep on doing what you can for your family and yourself FIRST and listen to the “intel” last
inwest: BWM, sorry but you didn’t answer my question. Do you think there is a global currency reset?
BWM: sorry about that… I believe there are several options to a financial reset… all of which I won’t get into strictly because some of the theory would require too many “ifs” to consider… I do believe there is a valid and feasible way that the global economics NEEDS to be restarted… whether that answer is as some have tried to explain to you I can’t really agree necessarily
redsnowbird: BWM…..I have so many different plans based upon what level the IQD does revalue or CE or float……that now I am getting worried that I have too many plans….and I am getting dizzy making plans…..what would you suggest…..go foward and have a simple plan to start…..and then adjust later?
BWM: I consider my plan to be in “phases” like you suggest… kind of a low, medium and high. My low being the bare minimum of things I need to do and my high being the all out everything your heart desires kinda plan… and yes I will adjust accordingly based on what I feel I can do Safely for my long term goals
redsnowbird: With what has happened in Cyprus….and the fact that now it has been determined that any bank in the US that fails….they will use the banks customers money to pay off debts first…..unless it is under the FDIC limit…..have you considered changing your mind about putting all monies in US?
BWM: call me southern but I still believe in ppl here… while I have said that I don’t get into the whole republic and reset conversation… I do believe a time is coming that we will get back to the basics… if for no reason other than history repeats itself… altho I have faith a little deeper than that
rjandrj2: What is a realistic timeline for all of this finally end? Within a year? Two years?
BWM: I don’t discuss date or rate info in public… like everyone public or private, I have had my times where I was hopeful if not even confident it would occur… it has led me to question the reliability of the information that I have received and has cut down what I consider “reliable” sources… most of the ones I trust don’t give me WHEN it will happen but when it WON’T and I work off timelines from that… I have dates just like everyone else that I have been given to expect or not expect things… but it doesn’t do any good IMO to put that out because I can’t change or advance any timing and it would set up expectations that aren’t realistic until it happens
lostintx: BWM, thank you for guidance and sometimes lengthy patience. We all need to realize that this has the potential to completely change the playing field as far as the haves and have nots. I pray we make change and do not travel their same road.
BWM: every question has made me consider where I personally stand… sometimes strengthening my resolve other times making me question it… the whole idea from the beginning for these sessions was to continually learn and advance
go-go-rv: BWM thank you for all the years of information you’ve given us. I am a US citizen, have a bank account in Canada. When I do my exchange over there, will I still have to pay taxes?
BWM: I’ll be honest go go… I have dealt specifically with U.S. issues and I’d hate to speculate the tax situation… in that situation you may possibly be required to put the money into a U.S. bank and work from there.. .under that scenario I would expect you would be subject to U.S. tax codes then moving the money to Canada which (see a tax professional) could create a second tax liability… you will want to understand all the situations before you put into one bank or the other IMO
BWM: I appreciate all the kinds words that you have sent through dialog… I won’t post all those but please understand that I truly do appreciate the opportunity that I have had to chat with each one of you
jhky: Simple question-is Iraq in sole control of the RV and if not who else plays a part?
BWM: nope… that’s my story and I’m sticking to it…
BWM: we’ve heard the “injunction” story and yadda yadda yadda… when a country can wake up one morning and find it’s currency revalued (india, several years ago) who do you think has control of a change in value of the currency.. ultimately it falls to the IMF to make that decision whether a country can or cannot
drae0879: Has Iraq actually RV’d?
BWM: how many times must you hear this before you completely shut your mind to it… in my opinion there are two scenarios neither of which is Iraq rv’ing in country first… either it goes everywhere at once or… well we will just have to see when it happens
speedracer: BWM Are you still planning on using Suisse Bank and Dutsche Bank (in New York if I remember correctly)?
BWM: uh… yeah that’s part of the “adjustments” in my plan… I will be looking at all the options for a foreign entity before deciding… honestly, I feel pretty good about my money being in the U.S. at this time but again, I am continuing to learn and adjust daily/weekly still
rjandrj2: Then who really does decide?
BWM: that’s the complicated megamultibzquadtrillion question… there are complicators as there is with any truly great thing… I do believe the IMF has ultimate say in whether the dinar CAN revalue… BUT I also know there are other entities working for their own greed and sheer pleasure of seeing ppl fail
BWM: again, I appreciate the comments about the past few years…
BWM: I have spoken to some of the SAME ppl that several of the gurus are getting their information from and yes, I HEAR THE SAME THINGS…. have I lost hope? Nope.
Do I think we’re close? Can YOU change the timing to the point that it matters? Didn’t think so… has 1 iota of information a guru given you on the timing of the actual RV EVER been useful to you?
I started doing classrooms at another site to facilitate the number of new and old (confused by the rhetoric) dinarians who just wanted to be able to ask a simple question and get a simple answer. No, not the “rate and date” question. But I can’t even begin to count the number of times I sat and answered the ol’ LOP question.
We moved into a little chat room and it was just you and me. Then it was a mod and you and me. Suddenly, there was a whole lotta you and I was completely blown away even with some of those numbers that ppl could sit quietly, ask a question and wait patiently for an answer. I’d do it over and over again if needed. But we’ve come to that fork in the fork (wait for it)…. IMO.
BWM: You can determine how many more superfantastic days you’ll sit waiting for a guru to post some tidbit of information or get on a conference call that will give you another time or day to cling to for hope. LISTEN to them.
Even they admit they are “guessing” now with the ol’ standby “well treat as rumor” or the ever popular “now this is just what my sources are saying”. If you are employed and just getting by or living the “large” life, or, you’re unemployed and desperate for something that will pull you out of the depths it begins with YOU…
I could go down another path here religiously but at the end of the day you were given the gift of CHOICE.
BWM: thanks again for your time in chat… I know there are a couple more questions but I will release the room so everyone can chat and I’ll still be around to answer those other questions as needed…
BWM 3S CLASSROOM: LAST CHANCE TO GET AN ‘A’
Friday, September 13 – 8:00 pm central
Capacity is limited
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[computadora2] Im so freaking ready for this freaking rv…is not freaking funny… lol
MORT POST FROM TNT FORUM, 13 SEPTEMBER fri-12:55 pm est-well just got some good & bad news just now-good news is that the groups will continue to be cashing out in reno as they are now which is tier 2 groups and they are politicians, military and he said right now there are over 65 planes in reno and they are cashing them out fast to get rid of some of the planes that are there to get more people in to get tier 2 cashed out, then tier 3 our groups will be cashing out and they are trying to get this done as fast as they can, but much congestion in reno-now the bad part is-he said the public announcement for the street rate on the dinar will not be announceed for 45 days! So all groups will be done 1st!
[dougb] Mtn Goat stated the RV will not happen until 1st of Oct.
[Austin-Powers-For-PM] The challenge I see is that most people don’t want to have their closely held beliefs about what is happening with the Dinar challenged. The fact is Mtn Goat may be right or wrong, but we won’t know that until the 1st part of October or sooner. So rather than pass judgement on intel we don’t like to hear, read it and take it in as a possible piece of the puzzle. It may fit, it may not. So IMO there just isn’t a need to go all ballistic on Mtn Goat just because she doesn’t bring us our warm fuzzies.
[Austin-Powers-For-PM] Sometimes we need to just look at intel and tell ourselves “Hmmm, isn’t that interesting” because interesting is neither wrong or right, it just is. We spend way to much energy defending our favroite Guru instead of stepping back and asking ourselves “What makes the most sense.”
9:31 PM [stage2omega] I will leave you with THIS………….THERE are people in the usa who have exchanged, the banks have monetized skr’s for certain people, and they do not want dinarians to know they can do skr’s with iqd & monetize the iqd for immediate CASH………….HAVE to run!!!!!!!! Enjoyed GO RV!!!!! (soon)
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Topic: “It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare. It is because we do not dare that things are difficult.” –
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Stage2Omega:
WHAT IS THE “TRUE” VALUE OF TIME??? FROM stage2omega TO You
Realize the value of time. Time in perspective.
Imagine there is a bank which credits your account each morning with $86,400, carries over no balance from day to day, allows you to keep no cash balance, and every evening cancels whatever part of the amount you had failed to use during the day.
What would you do?
Draw out every cent, of course!
Well, everyone has such a bank. It’s name is time.
Every morning, it credits you with 86,400 seconds.
Every night it writes off, as lost, whatever of this you have failed to invest to good purpose.
It carries over no balance. It allows no overdraft.
Each day it opens a new account for you.
Each night it burns the records of the day.
If you fail to use the day’s deposits, the loss is yours.
There is no going back. There is no drawing against the tomorrow.
You must live in the present on today’s deposits.
Invest it so as to get from it the utmost in health, happiness and success!
The clock is running. Make the most of today.
To realize the value of ONE YEAR, ask a student who failed a grade.
To realize the value of ONE MONTH, ask a mother who gave birth to a premature baby.
To realize the value of ONE WEEK, ask the editor of a weekly newspaper.
To realize the value of ONE HOUR, ask the lovers who are waiting to meet.
To realize the value of ONE MINUTE, ask a person who missed the train.
To realize the value of ONE SECOND, ask a person who just avoided an accident.
To realize the value of ONE MILLISECOND, ask the person who won a silver medal in the Olympics.
Treasure every moment that you have! And treasure it more because you shared it with someone special, special enough to spend your time.
And remember, time waits for no one.
Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow is a mystery.
Today is a gift. That’s why it’s called the present.
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jdtolle » September 13th, Dealing with the problems
The more you learn from your problems, the more effective you become at dealing with them. The more you learn from a problem, the less likely it is to trouble you again.
When a difficult problem comes along it can be easy to feel sorry for yourself. Yet pity, whether from yourself or others, is not what will help the situation.
What will help is a positive, informed response. What will help is effective action.
At first, go ahead and feel bad about the problem. Then make the choice to transform that intensely bad feeling into powerful positive energy.
Problems can get your attention and motivate you, so let them. Problems can teach you, so learn everything you can.
Choose to be positively motivated, to learn, and to respond with action. Be fully determined to move forward, and you will.
— Ralph Marston
May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
RV Rumors
CONFIRMED – IMF Did serve the UST and WF with an injunction to Immediately stop the blockage of the RV.
MUCH CREDIT IS OWED TO OKIE FOR PUTTING OUT THE TRUTH FOR THE PEOPLE. GOD BLESS YOU
RUMOR – RV is now awaiting the sign off of the Syria Peace Agreement in Geneva. Kerry is signing off for the USA. Scheduled for today in Geneva. RV TO FOLLOW!
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The Oracle: Contrary to popular belief here, John MacHaffie has very good contacts that he has built from the success of his website.
Ussohiorob: Just when I was getting down on this Dinar mess a friend of mine just came in and told me about his trip to WF this morning!
He was talking to the branch manager and asked him if he knew anything about the rates on the Dinar? I can’t believe he did this but I guess I’m glad he did. Please Please people, DON”T DO THIS!
We know this blessing is coming and there is no need to do this!
Anyway, the banker told him that they have been blocked out of all this info and maybe it was because something is about to happen! Then he smiled and told my friend that he really can’t tell him anything about it. So, my friend left and came straight here to tell me!
GOOOOOOO RV!
Topic: Still early in Calif…Tony is waiting on intel to come in and will do a Blast later…So, Let’s ENJOY THE REST OF THIS DAY!
[mort] well 2 days ago i got word to watch the next 3 am for the rv-well that only leaves tomorrow am left-so lets pray that it happens!!
[crowell] I must say after both tony and okie saying the rv will occur when the banks are closed in the wee hours of the morning and when you wake up and it has not happened look for it the next day-stinks! It takes the anticipation out of the day ughh! Go rv now. Now. Now!:( 
[august] sunshine8: 12:37pm: Stage2Omega: 1. The meeting kerry is having in switzerland is critical to the gcr 2. There are documents that are being signed as we speak, as that was the purpose of the trip 3. It’s much political posturing tied to Syria & weapons inspections as to who takes the credit 4. These documents appear to be the game ender!!!!!!!!!!! For our blessing if all goes WELL!!
[KIRKWOOD] tnt tnt they just cut into the speach…all information will be today…i saw it was 8pm now there so you know it will be in a few hours for us to get all detail…everything is good…good for RV… Tonight we will know all
[sunny] BREAKING NEWS CNN Just now, “UN Receives Syrian Papers”
[2sirden] I bought my Dinar over 8yrs ago and I still feel like it will RV today BUT here are some things that were said on when the RV WAS TO HAPPEN… Soon, Any moment yet, After…, Not before long, Very soon, Tomorrow, Tonight, Next weekend, This weekend, Next …, Straightway, Now ready, Ready now, Immediately after, It will happen spontaneously, Directly, Straightaway, PDQ, Coming unexpectedly, Anxiously waiting, This week, Shortly, Just after, Any second, Any minute, Positively soon, After this happens Then IT Will …, It’s coming, This month, This year, we are happen…, imminent, all will be well this month, It truly will be, One day closer to the RV, No hold ups, should wake up to it in the morning, iqd can happen now but all currencies on Oct 2, No more hold ups, this moment it is actually chaining, get this done tomorrow, really about waiting to sign the agreement for it to go, Thursday or Friday, get it done tomorrow, 1000 % it is happening, KEEP THE FAITH THAT TODAY IS THE DAY!
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[Papa Bear] GM Dinar Family I want to wish everyone a BLESSED Day
[Papa Bear] How is everyone in the Forest today?
[TexasMom] Papa Bear I think the forest is still sleeping!
[Papa Bear] TexasMom I doubt that .
[ivy10] Papa Bear Any good news before I get really busy today?
[Papa Bear] ivy10 Best news in the world but cant share it or the Forest would try to keep me awake from hibernation lurk all day
Topic: PLEASE WISH OUR PAPA BEAR A HAPPY BIRTHDAY
[Papa Bear] TY Folks for your wishes lets move this day into a bigger larger picture day.
[Papa Bear] TY folks we are all waiting on that same email and action toward RV, PP, WGS, and humanitarian Programs. The transparency through the years has been improving immensely and the clouds are moving out. We await that SUDDEN LIGHTENING BOLT
[Papa Bear] Wild and wonderful were the words for the day
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[BOBGETZ6] Just spoke with BWM. Tomorrow night at 8:00 CST, he will be holding one last classroom at 3sIntel and will answer questions until whenever. After that, they will be closing the chatroom. The forum will continue to stay open.
[BOBGETZ6] I also spoke with Shasta7 awhile ago and he will be back on later. He is rather opttimistic as to our place in the event. He has a couple of people that are trusted sources who are due to get back with him today. I suppose for every negative, there is also a plus.
[BOBGETZ6] I was asked earlier about Frank26′s site maybe being down for two days and I have someone checking on if so and what the reason might be. Anybody know.
[jacque47] UN UN UN Receives Syrian Papers Yes!!!!! Syrian submitted paperwork to join Chemical Weapons Convention..
[jacque47] was just on cnn
[lovavette] jacque47 whew!
[BOBGETZ6] jacque47 That helps, I hope. TY
[sandman3126] jacque47 Yes, I saw it earlier. Ban Ki Moon acknowleged it.
3s we’re ready to get back into a chapter that has been misplaced… and to that end the 3s chatroom will open for the last time on Saturday, September 14.
We look forward to shifting focus back to what’s truly important for each day. We have long realized that for the majority that’s not as flashy as feeling like they’re on some inside track.
You only have to ask yourself, “Am I still waiting?” and you know what track you’re on.
If only there was something truly significant that could be said out loud about where we are in this adventure. Everything else has been said a million times. The truth is only a select few in the background know the big picture and they aren’t saying a word. Count on it.
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From OkieOilMan: PLEASE TELL 3S ROOM THAT OKIEOILMAN AND FRIENDS WOULD WELCOME THEM TO OUR SITE—BLESSINGS
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[mort] My int lawyer said there is so much going on right now its just unbelievable..he did say the Chinese are so upset that this didn’t go on Sunday because they would have been Sept 8th and the Chinese like the number 8 and if you think about Oct 8th, that would have been the 30 days and that’s when the new us treasury notes are suppose to come OUT…
SO that messed that up & they are **** but he did get a call from one of his traders and that trader had brunch with the top trader who decides on all their trades and makes the final decision when they are to be done, and he told my lawyer he will be in Reno before this sat and he also said that Jack Lew is not in Reno right now, but Christine Largarde is in Reno and maybe she will be the one to get this done putting the bank rates in so we can get this finished!
He also said the prosperity packages are still being delivered and he has confirmations on some of them getting them!
[buckwheat] Obama: Strike ‘Absolutely’ on Hold if Syria Abandons Chemical Weapons –
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-strike-absolutely-hold-syria-abandons-chemical-weapons/story?id=20205109
[TexasRoadDawg] buckwheat buckwheat ……………………just saw that – and t h a t has to be good news and significant for us in this somehow – especially given what Tony shared directly today! –TRD
buckwheat] TexasRoadDawg My thoughts exactly
[okrocks] Obama calls chemical arms proposal a potential ‘breakthrough’ “Between the statements that we saw from the Russians — the statement today from the Syrians — this represents a potentially positive development,” Obama said in an interview with NBC News, according to a transcript provided by the network. “We are going to run this to ground. John Kerry will be talking to his Russian counterpart. We’re going to make sure that we see how serious these proposals are. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/john-kerry-in-london-campaigns-for-world-to-support-military-strike-against-syria/2013/09/09/e8ad7a72-193d-11e3-80ac-96205cacb45a_story.html
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I4U:
[nolaspice] I ask the Lord to help me, to guide me thru the day, I ask the Lord to give me strength, to help me on my way. I ask the Lord to help me thru, the pain I do endure, To help me bear my burdens, and keep my weak heart pure. I do not ask “Why me Lord”? for surely there’s a plan, For me and other’s like me even if we don’t understand.
[xyz] Parliament member denies resignation of the Governor of the Central Bank… Denied the Parliamentary Integrity Committee, on Monday, the resignation of central bank governor and Abdul Basit Turki agency from office. A member of the Committee Deputy High Nassif told / Baghdadi News /, it “had made contacts with the Central Bank confirmed its survival conservative Agency Abdul Basit Turki in office,” noting that the reports about his resignation “baseless and that he will remain in office” . The media reported today that the central bank governor and Abdul Basit Turki agency today submitted his resignation to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki personally, while the latter refused to accept it, she said, adding that Turkey did not sign the mail two days ago. http://www.albaghdadianews.com/politics/item/38949-AkleAm%D8%A9-AklnABn%D8%A9-blJn-AYObjAk%D8%A9-LGAJz-AkBlK-AkLEKen.html
[BWM] OK guys.. tonight we’ll go old school days and keep the chat open but PLEASE IM YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME so that we can avoid duplications…. we have 3 pages of questions cued up already and we want to get thru them as quickly as possible so please keep chatter down
[KCMana] First of all thank you to everyone here at 3sintel for allowing us the opportunity to share with the community.
[KCMana] I have been reviewing the events of the past couple of days and I am amazed at the humanity of it all. We have those who are trying to help, whether it’s a large group of strangers, their family members or friends. Many are “attempting” to follow the ever-changing thought process of what the rules are.
[KCMana] And then, we have the others. Those who continually like to stir the pot, cause confusion and promote their own agenda to the detriment of everyone around them. It doesn’t matter if you are in a small group or large group, these type of people appear everywhere.
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Could this have been malicious? Maybe, it could have been someone intentionally causing disruption but I like to believe several kind souls were attempting to help by imputing their friends, family or groups and many e-mail addresses were entered incorrectly.
I will attempt to go over most of the problems we have been facing with the e-mail system in this chat tonight.
[generals64] I’m here kiddo hey…..We WILL NOT RUN NOR HIDE
[KCMana] I received multiple e-mails demanding to know who we are and what we are about. I want to stress to everyone “we” the Generals64/Studley bank group do NOT “owe” anyone anything. Understand, I am not being mean to anyone, I am not trying to “hurt your feelings”…. We just truly owe no one – NOTHING!
This is our quick history. A small group in the OKC area joined together with a small group in KC to help OUR family and friends get the best rate. We decided that working as a UNITED front was better for each of us individually. We formed a group, we made friends in chat rooms and thought….”we could help them also.”
It grew organically from there. So here we are now THE LARGEST organized “bank” group in DinarLand. What is our purpose? To help our family and friends – and now extended friends.
[KCMana] The confusion over the last few days has taken a great toll on me personally. Most people can’t understand what it is like to have 500-1500 e-mails at a time in your mailbox. The stress of the attacks from strangers, losing days you should be with your family.
This is what I have been faced with the last few days (and many times over the past few years). I am really to the point I that I cannot read your e-mails. I have created a coined response that I use just to make it through the e-mails that continue to flood in.
I know YOU think it is just one e-mail, just one question…. but look in this room, look around DinarLand and the insanity that cascades out. Just one e-mail from each one of you is truly more than one person can handle.
I really don’t even want the thank you e-mails. As much as I appreciate them, I am way too overwhelmed right now to receive them. So, thank you for encouraging everyone to back off and just relax… Please let me catch up, and I have to get back to work. (You know the real job – that keeps the lights on).
[KCMana] I believe most of you already know, this job of the Generals64/Studley leadership group is completely VOLUNTEER… but beyond that, we pay for a website, we pay to keep a list, we pay to help our group.
So when people imply that we somehow “owe” them something, I generally hit the roof. We are receiving NOTHING from the bank!!! I can’t stress that enough. They haven’t helped us with this process. They haven’t contributed in any way except to let us know that in the end (whenever that may be) OUR group will receive the best rate.
[KCMana] Why are we so “special” …. We haven’t caused problems. We don’t call the RV… ever! Sure, we have said “we feel like we are close,” but we don’t call it. We don’t stir up trouble. We stay focused on our goal to ensure the best possible rate for our family and friends. DinarLand just gets to reap the benefit of our hard work if they choose to.
[KCMana] I do want to address some of the concerns that have been cropping up. Yes it’s important to have your name on the Generals64/Studley bank group to receive the bank instructions directly from us…. Instead of a third party….
NOW WAIT, before you panic. MANY of you have groups of family and friends, some of whom are elderly and cannot access e-mail. We know that, and we understand that, and I truly believe, you will be just fine. When you receive your e-mail from us, those who are working with groups like this you may have to make a few phone calls to ensure everyone is covered, but there will be a way.
We aren’t here to leave anyone out in the dark. Now, those of you who were expecting to receive our e-mail from one of the “boards” I am now not sure that will be the case…. But remember this is a fluid situation and this too can change. I always like to look at things logically, why would the bank have someone put out this info? Distraction? Maybe…. To get a better headcount? Maybe…. So in the future, let’s all take it down a notch. This is time for calm, slow down and think things through.
[KCMana] Someone put a post out that said you “had” to go to your personal link from our last e-mail message and update your information. REALLY!!! Come on, did you receive an e-mail from us asking you to do that… NO! So, why jump in with both feet and go crazy. I will make this promise, if we need our group to do something, we will inform you about it immediately. We still have our message board, I do post info that our group may need. So visit it, please, before you send me thousands of e-mails.
[KCMana] Now let’s talk about our e-mail list – I used to send a monthly update, I had to stop that because it is far too time consuming. I have gone to a quarterly update, next one is due to go out in OCTOBER. I am using a bulk mail system. Gmail only allows you to e-mail up to 500 people in one day… so I had to go bigger and stronger to accommodate our load. Many e-mail providers try to control your spam by attacking/kicking/or bouncing e-mail from bulk servers.
[KCMana] This is NOT an invitation to e-mail me! This is NOT an invitation for you to add me to your e-mail list and send me jokes or intel. This is NOT an invitation for you to e-mail me telling me your life story, we all have one, I don’t need to hear it. This is not an invitation for you to share your MLM with me. I don’t want to Google talk, Facebook or tweet.
[KCMana] Understand, most of the e-mail I receive I will not answer. If it goes too far, you will be removed from our group.
[KCMana] So, you must do this on your own… ADD [email protected] to your “safe sender” or “white” list. If you don’t understand that, find a 15 year old to help you — or call your e-mail provider and ask them how to make sure you receive your e-mail from us. Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL are some of the WORST e-mail addresses to have for OUR system. They flag us, they can see the volume of mail coming from our IP address to thousands of their users…. They kick it back all the time. PLEASE DO NOT USE – Verizon, Blackberry or icloud addresses at all. Army.Mil or .EDU addresses do not work.
[KCMana] For those of you using a spam filter e-mail program like People PC, Earthlink, Mail Link, Total control, etc. I am NOT filling out any form to “ensure” I am a safe sender. You have this system, contact your e-mail provider to find out how to receive the group e-mails.
[KCMana] It’s truly time for everyone to pick themselves up and take personal responsibility. You must be capable of making your own decisions on how to exchange, where to exchange, how much to exchange. We are NOT here to hold your hand. Remember, we are here to get the best possible rate for our family and friends. If you want to be counted as a friend, act like one.
[KCMana] OK BWM – Thanks for letting me share… ready for questions
[generals64] Can I add something?
[KCMana] YES – generals64 please
[generals64] I love you guys dearly…..I get upset quickly but we are not in this for an ego trip…. There has been talk of “tier” rates…. They could be right, just bad terminology. There is a street rate and OUR group rate…. No one knows what it is and no one really knows the date.
[generals64] The group rate is exactly what we were targeting and that is a portion of the bank spread. Our original goal was to come up with 1 billion dinar…. that’s not a problem. You guys can see our girl has it under control and AndieZ works with her
[KCMana] generals64 – I agree, I do think it is important that people really understand NO ONE will know “when,” not us either
[generals64] the group will know immediately after we do though
[BWM] The purpose of tonight’s Q&A was specifically to answer questions about group exchange… As you know we don’t do date and rate so if you were looking for that answer, well… you know where you can go. The questions will be laid out for the leadership to address as they like whether that be one or a number of them… so please be patient until we are done… Remember, you can continue to IM me questions during the chat
[KCMana] Much of our leadership is here… generals64, 4th-time, WileyMorgan
[BWM] Thanks again to Generals, KCMANA, wileymorgan and 4thtime (who appears to be having some trouble staying in) for joining us tonight. Let’s get started…
[lostintx] Any way we can verify that we are still in the group? And any truth to the rumor about a code being needed to prove group affiliation?
[generals64] No, it’s that simple
[KCMana] To verify you’re in the group, use your personal link. It is at the bottom of your group e-mails or on your welcome e-mail that says “keep this link.” Most of our base group has been with us for 2 years. You’re fine, no worries. You can always check your info using your personal link. PLEASE remember…. your personal link is YOUR information. When you forward our e-mails to your friends and they click your link… YOU’RE GONE, removed, goodbye
[interesting] Joined 2 years ago. Used my computer for setting up mine and a family member using different e-mail addresses, will that be a problem considering all that has gone on? THANKS for all you do!
[generals64] KCmana needs to answer (she did)…I was the person that had them shut it down…. So, blame me…. but she and Andie have it under complete control
[BWM] burchds: Did the rules change? If so, by whom and how were they changed for general’s members?
[generals64] No rules on the site were changed….we had some problems with bad e-mails
[KCMana] The rules change all the time. At this time, we believe it is good for everyone to be signed up individually. Now if you’re married, one is fine (unless you haven’t told him how much you have)
[HappyJan] When I first joined list I was in NJ and used my NJ zipcode. I am now a Florida resident. Do I have to change my zip?
[KCMana] You do not need to change your zip at this time. Tell them when you call the 800 #
[CAfaceman] Is there any truth to the rumor that if we exchange even one dinar note prior to our Studley/Generals64 bank appointment that we will be excluded from participating in the group rate package your team has negotiated?
[KCMana] No one knows the answer to that one…. for me, personally, I would not risk it.
[Wellness] Can we cash out a little VND to payoff our reserves before making our appointment with WF and not have our rate default to street rate.
[generals64] It is basically a rumor…. Please note rumor…. We have that with the bank right now…But, it is a RUMOR created from another site
[KCMana] Also, remember “they” have eyes & ears on the chat rooms… they know all the games people are trying to come up with
[BWM] the safe answer is you will exchange what you have “IN HAND”… what the banks will do with reserves is still unconfirmed
[BD] If our IP address has changed since we signed up originally last year, do we have to re-register?
[KCMana] NO – We don’t hit your IP, we send e-mail
[txgirl] If you have children that you have bought dinar for and they do not have a clue, what is your best advice for them to cash in?
[KCMana] Tell them – I gifted everyone at one time. With a letter explaining what I thought it was… Whatever is best for your family relationship. DO NOT SIGN THEM UP if they don’t know about it.
[wileymorgan] Any gift of dinar will be a blessing, it is more money that they had the day before. Street rate is better than no rate
[kman48] I signed up tonight after you came back on line, how long is it typically before I receive the e-mail?
[KCMana] It depends on the traffic. We have had a ton of people on tonight. Check your spam folder. Do you have an e-mail account that requires a form to be filled out (ain’t gonna happen). Make sure we are on your safe sender list. It all helps you receive “your welcome”
[caramina] Does a married couple need to register separately and if you have a trust, does that need to be registered separately also? Thanks!
[KCMana] Caramina – Married… that depends. Did you tell him how much you have? Are you exchanging separately? Your Trust is you, right? …. I think one is enough
[interesting] I have a family member who no longer has their previous KCMana update e-mail with their link so they can not update their information. What do they do?
[KCMana] Go to www.Generals64.info. Click “subscribe,” enter the e-mail address you registered with… you’ll pop up. Change anything you need to. Switch e-mail address, it’s all good. Click “unsubscribe” by mistake… OOPS, you’re off the list.
[KCMana] Generals is reminding me… POST RV we will have an address for everyone to send him toasters
[generals64] You know I’m kidding….
[4th-time] Just picturing the generals with 10, 20, 30,000 toasters and the guy delivering them
[KCMana] 4th-time he’ll be like a kid in a candy store
[tweedledee] A friend is giving dinar to 350 employees. They do not know they are getting it and may or may not have e-mails. How does this boss handle signing them up for the group?
[KCMana] tweedledee: Please do NOT sign up anyone that is unaware. I think WileyMorgan said it best, street rate is better than no rate if it comes to that
[oucrazy] Will the rate be exposed to us prior to the exchange appointment?
[KCMana] We will know that when we get the instructions
[Capt Crunch] Can we take an attorney to the cash out?
[KCMana] Capt Crunch – I really wish I could answer that, I don’t know. Ask them when you call in.
[generals64] KCmana – Let me have this one… Capt Crunch, this has been discussed with the bank…No lawyer needs to be there at that time… It is simply a deposited cash transaction. However, they will want to have a chance at you with a wealth management person and I would have one there then for safety’s sake. There is about a 20 minute appt. time…. Sorry but too many people to handle
[generals64] By the way…we are only quoting what the banks have told us and the truth. If you are looking for rumors, then adios
[23skido] What if there is a family of 4 and they have only one e-mail addy? How would they register for the group?
[KCMana] One person is listed and uses the one e-mail. Each e-mail can only be used ONCE (1x) period. So when you type in multiple names with the same e-mail you just replace the person you entered before.
[KCMana] FYI….. G-MAIL works best with our system
[cib] If someone has one or two 25k dinars must they still register if they have no computer or e-mail?
[KCMana] We started this group for those with very small amounts. G-mail has free e-mail
[Gnarz] I spoke to KCMANA a while back and she said there would be a deal through HSBC for international members. We/he would like confirmation this is still the case and ask: Do international members need to individually register the same as the WF customers/group members do?
[KCMana] For our international friends… Make sure you have checked the box that lets us know you’re outside of the USA. We will send any and all information we receive to help the best way we can
[doghouse] 1. Will people in Hawaii (Oahu) have a place to exchange? 2. Will all get same rate and % and perks?
[KCMana] Yes / Yes …
[KCMana] I should mention we are ONLY attempting to have the best rate out there… NO PERKS
[KCMana] I believe Alaska is the area that 800#’s don’t work… We have informed the bank of that issue
[wileymorgan] You are correct, KC. It was Alaska and we have not been provided and answers yet
[Fishin47] Any idea of Canadian Banks that will be participating in the CE?
[KCMana] Fishin47 – We will post all information for those outside of the USA that we can. Please make sure you have checked that box.
[RPharmer] Do we know of a group rate for the VND yet? Not the rate but will there be a group rate?
[interesting] I won’t feel comfortable doing the CE without a delarue machine to authenticate my currency. It would take too long any other way. How can we be SURE we will be sent to a CE location that DEFINITELY has a delarue machine to verify my currency?
[KCMana] I won’t answer this. When we get the instructions, we will tell you what we know.
[BWM] I can give a “best” guess on the process… this is an OPINION… you will call the number, they will ask for a zip code and you will be given a location unless you have another option to discuss (you want to exchange in another location). They will be using locations that allow for optimum timing (remember that 20 minutes Generals referred to) and security
[Vivi] Thank you! Could you address concerns about the security of the information we are providing?
[KCMana] Vivi – I am the only one with access to it. If you only knew how much I don’t care to look at anyone’s info.
[Fishin47] If you live in Mexico and travel to the U.S. for CE, will they be allowed to cash in at the group rate if registered with G64?
[KCMana] Fishin47 – I can’t imagine why not
[randee1] I am going to capitalize all my dinar into a “blind” trust of which I am the trustee. In registering for the group can I register with my own name as the trustee or do I have to register for the group using the name of the trust itself?
[KCMana] randee1 – You’re really over thinking this. It’s you
[BWM] Let me address something that was brought up by Generals and KCmana… the idea that the RATE was negotiated but not PERKS… Why? Think about it… someone with a single 25k note would not qualify for private banking unless the rate was stupid… there are still qualifications that have to be met by the bank. Most banks require a minimum deposit of 250k to 1M to qualify for private banking… it depends on the bank and whether or not they have options for wealth management locally or have to have them “shipped” in
[coorslite21] So is the delarue machine really necessary with all of the other identifiable features incorporated into the IQD?
[KCMana] coorslite21 – I trust we will all be fine. Let’s wait to see what our instructions say before we start being concerned about the delarue
[BD] For those who may have to fly to their appointment, has there been any confirmation to a limit of dinar they are allowed to travel with?
[KCMana] BD – check with the TSA
[wileymorgan] Per the TSA website, there are no restrictions on transporting currency, foreign or domestic, within the U.S.
[KCMana] Guys we are here to help get the best rate for the group. We can not fix the world problems.
[calgon] Any truth to the 30 day time limit to CE?
[KCMana] calgon – If there is a limit to the group rate we will know when the instructions come out.
[Asells] Someone e-mailed me … What can we expect out of the NDA?
[KCMana] I have not seen an NDA, so I can’t answer that
[BWM] OK guys.. the only questions that I currently have.. have either been answered earlier, don’t pertain to group info, or are specific enough that I can answer… I will stay until room closes to answer other questions as needed also…
[greatseedsower] My 15 year old purchased his own dinar and VND. Can he join group?
[KCMana] greatseedsower – Yes. Guys, our group is open to everyone.
[4th-time] greatseedsower – My kids have their own and I will exchange theirs they are minors
[BWM] You can always pursue a power of attorney for kids, elderly or others as needed
[rcgervais] Will there be a 11% tax that the bank will take out at exchange?
[wileymorgan] rcgervais – No one knows at this time
[yellow2] Will the 800 # be posted on Dinar Recaps or can only get it thru your site?
[KCMana] yellow2 – NO you have to be on the e-mail list
[BWM] Thanks to our mods and admin tonight for making this happen
[puppylove] “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS. THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OUR HEROS BOTH PAST AND PRESENT
[Papa Bear] GM Dinar Family most of you know I dont agree with all for agreement sake. but I would like to make a statement and that is the Lord has always had his hands in these changes and it it has been his path . I choose to be an independent follower as always and will rely on my discernment and guidance from my Father.
[sandytob] Papa Bear Hi. What did you think of Zap’s post yesterday?
[Papa Bear] I hope you understand my silence is for the good of the whole and that I havent left you and wont unless SQ asks me too.
[Papa Bear] sandytob Right on Change = opportunity.
[sandytob] Papa Bear ty
[greasee5] Papa Bear at times silence is golden, and you will be within our hearts and minds, long after this is done!!
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xyz] [KCMana] First of all thank you to everyone here at 3sintel for allowing us the opportunity to share with the community. [KCMana] I have been reviewing the events of the past couple of days and I am amazed at the humanity of it all. We have those who are trying to help, whether it’s a large group of strangers, their family members or friends. Many are “attempting” to follow the ever-changing thought process of what the rules are. http://3sintel.org/kcmana-august-4/
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jdtolle » August 5th, 2013, Momentum changer
If nothing seems to be going right, break the pattern by getting yourself going right. When momentum is pushing you backwards, make the choice to create some positive, forward-directed momentum.
Just because a few negative things have happened to you, doesn’t mean you’re having a bad day. It means you have the opportunity to make a meaningful positive difference in the direction of the day.
Instead of agonizing over the setbacks and disappointments, get energized and enthusiastic about the good things you can now do. Get energized and then get busy actually doing those things, taking positive action and getting positive results.
Be a momentum changer. Although the day may have started out in an unfortunate direction, that can end right now with you.
Any negative pattern you experience can only continue if you let it. Don’t let it.
Stop the negative pattern, change the momentum and transform the whole day by choosing positive action. You have the power to be a momentum changer, so use that power to the benefit of yourself and all those around you.
— Ralph Marston May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
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Late Sunday Night:
TNT:
[jbelison] Good Evening TNT family, Every single thing that we have been through in the Dinar investment has prepared us for that single moment that is yet to come. Hang in there and count your blessings, we are on the edge of something wonderful and life changing. Y’all have a blessed evening and stay positive. Its better to look at this adventure from the top down rather than the bottom up.
[al] Grounding points: 1. Iraq is an extremely mineral rich country and their currency will not be allowed to remain at its present value. It has to reflect the assets of the country.
2. Iraq and the world have been ramping up for this event for years and at this point all involved parties are pushing for it. So we are told.
3. The Banks have been getting some kind of advanced notice to the extent that they have apparently gone to great expense in preparation for dinar holders to come in to exchange. If that is true, Bankers are not fools to spend that kind of money on mere speculation.
[al] The trajectory of this event has been heading toward the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar ever since 2003. The CBI, the GOI, The IMF, WB, USA, Great Brittan, the central banks of the world have been coordinating this event for years.
Everything that we know says we are there. There is no question as to whether Iraq can support this RV. They can and they are ready. By their own admission they are ready to make a change.
If in fact these Qcards are loaded and activated with the funds and a new rate then we are there. Do not listen to those that will continue to want to steal your joy.
We are within days or hours of this occurring. If it does not then we can discuss what happened or where we went wrong.
For now I believe we can be encouraged and be excited that is almost over. I have been here for 10 years and I am ready!!!!!!
